Podcast Season 2 Episode 11

Posted at 3:37pm on Thursday June 24th 2010

Title: The one without Andrew, mostly.

In this episode: Google releases its own command-line tool, Ubuntu drops F-Spot, and has anyone seen Mandriva? Listen to the results of our haiku challenge, and we ask, do you use open source software for freedom or function?

What's in the show:

News:
You Dare Us:
Discovery of the week:
- Mike:
  - The freshly open sourced Lugaroo.
- Paul:
  - Louis Bougeard's excellent TuxRadar Chrome Extension.
  - A picture.
- Graham:
  - The world's best open source reverb plugin, MVerb.
In the Hot Seat:

dousing rod

Open Ballot:

Freedom or function?

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Presenters: Andrew Gregory, Paul Hudson, Graham Morrison and Mike Saunders

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Your comments

hot topic suggestion

little drummer boy (not verified) - June 24, 2010 @ 10:12pm

Is Capello wrong to play Gerrard on the left?

re. Shotwell

Maradona (not verified) - June 24, 2010 @ 10:16pm

Disappointed to hear that Shotwell will replace f-spot as the default photo app. I was counting on Kalbum becoming the default.

Having tried to get my mom going with F-Spot

Pantsless Penguin (not verified) - June 25, 2010 @ 2:22am

I gladly welcome our new Shotwell overlords. Mono arguments completely aside, trying to get my mom comfortable using F-Spot was impossible. The UI was inconsistent, unintuitive, and generally a bag of crap. It tried to be iPhoto, but acted more like iPhoto's special-needs cousin with explosive diarrhea. I got her going with GThumb since it does everything she needs, we'll see if Shotwell is any better.

hot topic / open ballot suggestion

Transistor Sister (not verified) - June 25, 2010 @ 7:31am

If Linux was a footballer, would it be more of a Lionel Messi or more of a Robert Green?

Paul in the Hot Seat

mifrosu (not verified) - June 25, 2010 @ 10:55am

Python? I sense there's something you yearn to tell the world ...

@mifrosu

Huw - June 25, 2010 @ 11:15am

Hehe, I was going to suggest that. He's had a good old rant about it in the past, very funny.

Failing that, I suggest Android, because I daresay Paul probably knows bugger all about it. :D

Python indeed...

Sparrow - June 25, 2010 @ 4:23pm

Paul, one minute in the hot seat on "What's so great about Python!"

Oops...

Sparrow - June 25, 2010 @ 4:24pm

[note to self, read other post first]

you're going to hate this, but

mihaly (not verified) - June 25, 2010 @ 6:58pm

The guy from Disney incorporated came over to Sydney recently and no-one asked him whether the copyright legislation that prevented anyone from using images such as Mickey Mouse smoking a hookah was why he was out here to prevent such stuff.

I live in Bankstown, and people actually sit in cafes and smoke fruit flavoured tobacco from hookahs. so it's something
people actually do. Why can't we see t-shirts with Mickey and Minnie engaging in consenting sexual positions?

It's a problem if corporations deny fair use of icons, especially when the use might actually produce interesting "art".

This is actually not about Mickey Mouse, it's about fair use and freedom.

Get over the image of Mickey and Minnie (even though at this point, all I can do is suggest it, if I were to actually draw it, I might be thrust before a magistrate)

Copy rights are an important issue, could you place a tag on the wheel for someone to discuss please? What do you think about this? Are the laws different over there in the UK? You mention that there aren't patents, is this similar?

There, that's what I want to say.

Mike.

Python

Hudzilla - June 25, 2010 @ 8:20pm

Surely I already do enough programming ranting on Twitter - do you really want me to rant about programming on the podcast? ;)

@Hudzilla

mifrosu (not verified) - June 25, 2010 @ 10:20pm

Now don't make us wheel out Mrs Doyle...

Cool command that fits in a text message

Chris Woollard (not verified) - June 26, 2010 @ 10:06pm

Here is a good one that is short that will create music :)

cat /dev/urandom /dev/dsp

RE: Cool command that fits in a text message

Chris Woollard (not verified) - June 26, 2010 @ 10:07pm

Opps. I missed something.

cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp

best id3 tagger

Lord Kelvin (not verified) - June 27, 2010 @ 1:05am

Forgot who of you said it, but the best tag editor I have ever found was indeed a free one, but it is for windows (runs well under wine), mp3tag http://www.mp3tag.de/en/index.html Thank you, take care.

Easytag, by a mile.

DaveS (not verified) - June 27, 2010 @ 8:28pm

Easytag, by a mile. http://easytag.sourceforge.net/

Google CL tool a big disappointment

uomosenzanome - June 27, 2010 @ 11:36pm

Well, I installed the debian package and I have to say . . . if you were going to bother making a google command line tool, wouldn't you at least want it to be able to google something? I would also think you have it be able to do something with gmail also.

Well, you can't do either . . . you can't do any google search functions that you could pipe through grep or what have you. This is a fairly worthless tool at this point, I hope they improve it.

Goosh seems cooler, though its web-based: http://goosh.org/

harriseldon?!

kin (not verified) - June 28, 2010 @ 10:50am

harriseldon?! Considering the audience, most likely to be a play on Hari Seldon of Asimov's Foundation. You geeks should know that ;)

tagscanner

johnvile - June 29, 2010 @ 7:33am

you know when someone says something about mp3 tags that there's going to be a barrage of suggestions.
So heres another

TagScanner used to come bundled with Kazaa lite(?).
It runs under Wine. It's so good I still use it.

http://www.xdlab.ru/en/index.htm

Re Shotwell / F-Spot

avoura - June 29, 2010 @ 9:38pm

I did once try to use F-Spot and found it very difficult to do what I wanted. I was already using Digikam and continue to do so. I would be willing to give Shotwell a try, as anything is better than F-Spot.

Mandriva gone

avoura - June 29, 2010 @ 9:41pm

I heard you mention that Mandriva is going out of business quite possibly, and I knew recently that it might be a possibility if they have no more money. But, only recently I installed Mandriva Instant On on my PC, to have a distro to boot into quickly instead of loading up Ubuntu. It worked great, but just a few days ago it stopped working. It boots but only to a completely blank screen instead of the normal Mandriva Instant On desktop. And this failure of Mandriva Instant On just as the Mandriva company is failing -- too much of a coincidence?
Anyone else had a problem with a Mandriva installation that has recently refused to boot?
Have the Mandriva developers remotely stopped users from using Mandriva, or possibly an enemy has done this?

Daring the presenters

avoura - June 29, 2010 @ 9:42pm

I dare the presenters to make a short video using only Linux tools.

Yes, and they would have to

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - July 3, 2010 @ 8:43pm

Yes, and they would have to use a linux video recording device, such as an android/maemo phone!

Shotwell vs F-Spot

Ironring (not verified) - January 7, 2011 @ 10:48pm

Sorry for the late comment, lads. I've just discovered the podcast and am working my way through previous episodes...

The one major feature that Shotwell has over F-Spot is that it manages videos (at least that is what the project site claims). This has been a major missing feature in F-Spot. I haven't used it yet, but I will be glad to try it out.