Podcast Season 1 Episode 20

Posted at 3:18pm on Thursday October 29th 2009

Title: Manky Monkey

In this episode: Ubuntu 9.10 has been released! To celebrate, we talk about what's new and what's old, review a version of Ubuntu each, discuss what we love and loathe and set our minds on the future with Lucid Lynx. Koala Ho!

What's in the show

News: Canonical has released Ubuntu 9.10, the Karmic Koala. We discuss the new features hidden behind its crisp honeycomb exterior.
Hot Topic: We each review a version of Ubuntu. Mike looks at Xubuntu, Graham at Kubuntu, Andrew at the original and Paul at the UNR and Moblin editions.
Discovery of the week: What we each love and loath in Karmic.
Closed Ballot: How would we improve things for the next release, Lucid Lynx?
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Presenters: Andrew Gregory, Paul Hudson, Graham Morrison and Mike Saunders

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Ubuntu

Paul Szczepanek (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 4:07pm

If you read the Distrowatch weekly (which you should) you'd know what devoting the entire show to Ubuntu will cause.

In before outrage.

This episode marks a year

deathalele (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 4:32pm

This episode marks a year since i left ubuntu in disgust after upgrading to 8.10,

Come on guys...

Andrew Cole (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 4:38pm

I don't use Ubuntu, even though I am going to try Kubuntu 9.10, but it is the leading distro with the general public and a new release just came out. Dedicating 2 episodes a year out of 24 to the best shot we have even if we don't use it is not unreasonable.

I am glad they did the review, although last time I think they applauded themselves on waiting a couple weeks?

Wouldn't youtube videos of the various themes be great?

BubbaT (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 4:53pm

Since you guys are talking about them in podcsts and all, it would be nice to see screencasts of the bootup screens, themes, and general usage.

That's hint to the readers too.

Sigh: Depressed because I have to wait a couple weeks for Mint.

Meta Mollusk

Andrew Cole (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 4:58pm

Meta Mollusk ownes the monkey ;)

Where is Richard Gabriel?

BubbaT (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 5:38pm

Is he taking Canonical or something.

PS
10 points to the person that gets the joke.

PPS
Extensions I use. Aardvark but I use it on Windows with PDFCreator ( PDFCreator takes whatever you are printing and stores it in a PDF file. ).
Whatever version, of the latest addon to allow me to save embedded videos.
Most important is Session Manager which I could not live without, since much documentation is online.

Correction.

BubbaT (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 5:39pm

It should read
Is he (Richard Gabriel ) taking over Canonical...

Yup

Nobody Important (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 5:51pm

The first comment is spot-on. Ubuntu haters inbound!

Apparently the most popular Linux distro isn't allowed to have stories written about it in Distrowatch. "Ubuntuwatch!" they cry, as if any mention of the distro will tear their soul to pieces (even though they very rarely do a main story just on Ubuntu - maybe once every few months). Tux Radar, your podcast is the same way! Or should I say, "Ubuntu Radar!" Haha, didn't see that one coming, didja?!

I'm having problems downloading the podcast. When I am forced to suffer through Windows Vista and use iTunes, it's always been irksome, but even a regular Firefox download is having issues. Quite a busy Thursday, I assume?

ubuntu name ideas posted here?

uomosenzanome - October 29, 2009 @ 6:06pm

This is where we get to win the prize, right? Well here were a few ideas after just listening to the podcast:

Mammoth Mammoth
Mister Moose
Magic Maggot
Morbid Moray
Muon Moufflon
Milky Milksnake
Mighty Mite
Meaty Meekat
Muscly Mustang
Martyred Marmot
Master Mastadon (too bad the first word one can only be two syllables on that one, eh?)

Few more

Ram - October 29, 2009 @ 6:42pm

Magic Mushroom
Mo Moorhen
Mo Mole

from IRC

Dan Dart (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 6:49pm

In #ubuntu-release-party I suggested:
Marvellous/Magnificent Man (For Human Beings?)
Or minx... Or mockingbird... Or Manta. Or millipede.
Or Marsupial (as in, Koala, but more! Clever, huh...)

Minging molerat?

Dan Dart Again (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 6:51pm

Sounds quite smelly.

Names

TuringComplete - October 29, 2009 @ 7:00pm

Great podcast guys, am planning to upgrade soon.

As for names, how about:

Morose Mongoose
Multicoloured Macaw
Minxy Mink
Murky Manatee
Mummy Moorhen
Madness Man

Also

Nobody Important (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 7:10pm

I think Paul was using the wrong program. The new Software Store is a lot better than he says, and really, really awesome. So much better than Add/Remove.

So, yeah. Full of it.

Dan Dart Again Again (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 7:13pm

Mystic mongoose?

And

Nobody Important (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 7:13pm

I should really listen to the end of the program before I comment, but.

You want your desktop to excite you? Really?

I'd prefer "working" to "exciting," personally.

Ubuntunbutububutu

You-da-penguin (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 7:15pm

May I suggest "Malicious Mudpuppy" for 10.10?

This suggests an aggressive competitor up against the likes of Microsoft and Apple, whilst remaining cuddly (and, erm muddy) like a puppy-themed brown Ubuntu desktop.

Re: Also / Re: Ubuntunbutububutu

uomosenzanome - October 29, 2009 @ 7:48pm

>I think Paul was using the wrong program. The new Software Store is a lot better than he says

The new software store couldn't possibly be better than apt-get/aptitude/dpkg and /etc/sources.lst

>May I suggest "Malicious Mudpuppy" for 10.10

That's good, except the first word can only two syllables Mega Mudpuppy? Or if boot time increases: the Moping Mudpuppy . . . Muddy Mudpuppy might sound a bit like Woody Woodpecker . . . or with Muppet Mudpuppy, tcanonical could market mudpuppy handpuppets.

Pulseaudio Controls

Hoodlum (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 8:26pm

Fedora 12 has all the volume/device control you have requested in the podcast under gnome (at least) I haven't had a look at the KDE desktop.

Ubuntu 10.10 name

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - October 29, 2009 @ 11:52pm

The first word doesn't have to be 2 syllables - we had "intrepid ibex" and "intrepid" is 3 syllables so how about "masturbating minger"?

Maritime Meerkat

Andrew Cole (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 12:14am

Ubuntunbutububutuntu

You-da-penguin (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 12:15am

Mid-engined Mollusc?

The well balanced, if slightly oversteering in the wet member of the shellfish family.

Magnificent Mollusc

Ray Woods (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 12:56am

And roll on Mint 8!

Then may be...

Ray Woods (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 12:57am

Minty Mollusc

That's right Ray.

BubbaT (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 1:47am

BTW what is Mint 8 called?

I would suggest that they make names racier, but "they" might accuse me of being sexist.

http://www.linuxmint.com/blog/?p=1073

really

Nobody Important (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 2:02am

>The new software store couldn't possibly be better than apt-get/aptitude/dpkg and /etc/sources.lst

Did I say that? No? Then why are you saying this in response to my comment?

I like "Meh"

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 2:27am

Been using Slackware since 8.0 and I've learned quite a bit about installing, configuring and maintaining a Linux-based OS. More important than anything else I've learned is that I'd rather not do it anymore.
I do keep one older machine running Slack, but the others are now running Ubuntu and friends.

Regarding the software center. While it is aesthetically lacking, it answers one of the larger complaints from recent converts. Click on the category, find your app, click install. No apt-get install, no wading through thousands of packages in Synaptic. No looking at all of the dependencies asking yourself "What is all this stuff?" and "Is this something I really want to do?"
I agree the looks are dreadful. But it's new and I expect it to get better. And, I don't have to use it.
I still prefer Synaptic but the software center is a good addition for new users.

>>I'd prefer "working" to "exciting," personally.

Precisely. I don't edit video, graphics or audio, I'm not a gamer and I don't crunch code. I have no need to spend massive amounts of money buying power-sucking heat generators. I tend to buy low power hardware. Therefore, I prefer to devote system resources to actual productivity.
I rather like "meh" when it comes to OS's.

Aptitude downloads in parallel

Pykler (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 2:28am

Do not do that download script thing you mentioned, it makes me cry. Try aptitude, it downloads things somewhat in parallel.

PulseAudio is really great [1] ... but not in Ubuntu

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 7:21am

Ubuntu team failed with PulseAudio again. The fix is coming on Ubuntu 10.04: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/406702

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/pa-in-ubuntu.html

[1]
http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/08/sound-on-linux-anti-fud-calm-certainty-and-confidence/
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/amarok/2009-October/009451.html

New name for ubuntu 10.04

FranCisKO (not verified) - October 30, 2009 @ 10:47am

Malicious Mandrill
Marvelous Mice
Miracle Monkey
Manly Men
Massive Mosquito
Morphing Moth (yes, because of the change)

And my two favorites!!

Mini Mink
Messianic Mule

munificent Mooncalf

multi-millionaire mark

mm

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - October 31, 2009 @ 9:17pm

MikeOS Mimic

mm

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - October 31, 2009 @ 9:20pm

Maybepulseaudio Mightactuallyworkthis time

Milky MILF

Anonymous Baldrick (not verified) - November 1, 2009 @ 9:27am

Manatee

Exabyte - November 1, 2009 @ 11:41am

As someone said in the pod cast I to like manatees so this is my sugestion for the M name:
Mellow Manatee

Why stop at 10.10?

Dirty Den (not verified) - November 1, 2009 @ 4:10pm

some future versions of ubuntu

randy rent-boy
rollicking rhino
ridiculously-long rattlesnake
well-hung weasel
horny hornet
non-freesoftware's nemesis
non-stop nympho
orgasmic omnivore
sexy stallman
pissingallovermicrosoftandapple panda
polished possum
funky phallicsymbol
wetdreaminducing windowmanager
wanking wallabee
SteveJobs Shitshimself
Microsoft's Millstone
Frisky Fucker

mm

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - November 1, 2009 @ 4:13pm

mono-containing monstrosity

things that make you go "mmmmmmmmmmm"

Max Boner (not verified) - November 1, 2009 @ 6:10pm

+1 for "mountainous mammories" although shuttleworth will probably veto it because he's afraid that Ubuntu could go tits up

Mandy(isa)tory

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - November 1, 2009 @ 7:01pm

since m is for lord Mandelson how about
macabre, miserable, mafia-like, mailworker-bludgeoning, mycountrydestroying, mymoneylininghispockets myGodhe'sawful MP for Hartlepool

my ten cents

Anonymous Asshole (not verified) - November 1, 2009 @ 11:32pm

manic-depressive minotaur

Ubuntu title

tomato - November 2, 2009 @ 4:57pm

Personally, I like "Machivellian Mudskipper". Mudskippers are extremely cool animals, they are fish which can walk on land and climb trees!

10.10

Randy Guy (not verified) - November 2, 2009 @ 9:34pm

Muffdiving Minister

TITle

Master Bates (not verified) - November 2, 2009 @ 9:36pm

Meticulous Moneyshot

Name for 10.10

Mr B. I. G. Stiffy (not verified) - November 2, 2009 @ 10:02pm

Melinda Messenger

What's in a Name?

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - November 5, 2009 @ 12:53am

How about "Malicious Mongoose" anyone?

podcast rss feed incorrect

Tecumseh (not verified) - November 23, 2009 @ 11:09pm

Somehow the mp3 podcast is not listing this episode correctly. This one is listed as an ogg in the mp3 list. I finally figured out why amarok complained that my media device couldn't play it...

Better Late than never

Gav (not verified) - January 17, 2010 @ 11:49am

Manic Minah

Mange Mutt

Anonymous Penguin (not verified) - April 11, 2010 @ 2:14pm

Mange Mutt